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superrick

Okay for all of you guys that know everything, are bubble craps machines nothing more than a slot machine? You Are Nothing Slot Machine

Can you back up what you are writing with facts?

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charlestfuller

Yes, by definition they are different. Craps machines do not have a reel and are not really associated with random symbols. Craps can involve strategy, albeit not necessarily a winning one. Strange to see two threads now about bubble craps machines..

superrick

Well, it's because more and more of these machines are showing up around the country! They also are showing up where they can't have table games, so if that is the case are they slot machines?

ThatDonGuy

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Well, it's because more and more of these machines are showing up around the country! They also are showing up where they can't have table games, so if that is the case are they slot machines?

Bubble craps machines are probably considered 'slot machines' just as much as video poker machines are. If the bets are handled electronically and no staffers (dealers/croupiers) are needed, then it is probably considered a 'gaming device' just like a slot machine. Is there a reason you need to know if the specific term 'slot machine' applies to them?
One exception I can think of to 'they're showing up where they can't have table games': California. Casinos that were opened or had their compacts renegotiated (e.g. to add more machines) after 2010 have a stipulation saying that no games that use 'physical dice' are allowed. While I have a feeling this was targeting the versions of craps that, while cards determine the actual numbers, dice are used to determine which cards are drawn, it almost certainly applies to bubble craps as well.

superrick

Yes, there is a reason and it goes like this, I don't like information that can't be proven and is nothing more than fiction that is passed on to anybody that wants to read it! Common sense would tell you that they are slot machines if the casinos can't have table games but now have these bubble craps machines that are now showing up in more casinos!
If they are slot machines do they have to act like real live table games? There may be a big misconception that they have to act like real table games when they don't have to because in fact they are a slot machine! Standing back and looking at the machine are the players thinking that they are playing real craps when they are not?

AxelWolf

I would look up the laws in the state you want to know more about. It's to my understanding, in Nevada, if a machine has a dice or poker card feature, it must be random.
I hear people saying they are not random, and the machines are using magnets or something like that to cheat(*rolls eyes). If that's the case, it makes me wonder why most casinos don't allow you to earn points(oftentimes they start out allowing you to earn points and then quickly disallow from point earning) on something that is acting like a slot and is basically cheating people? They should be giving away triple points, running promotions and encouraging people to play their craps 'slot'.
If they can gaff bubble craps to not play fair why dont they just make more games like spin poker VP add FPDW, FPJW etc etc and gaff the hell out of them?
Why not gaff all the Video BJ as well?
I'm not sure why any halfway educated gambler would want to play them for any serious money or time in the first place, unless they have an advantage, or they are just messing around wasting time or whatever. Are

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Mission146

Okay for all of you guys that know everything, are bubble craps machines nothing more than a slot machine?
Can you back up what you are writing with facts?

For W2G purposes, they are treated as a slot machine rather than table game.
They are legal in some jurisdictions in which live table games are not because they fall under the definition of an electronic game.
In terms of randomness, for Nevada at least, any game that uses cards, dice, roulette wheel or other physical implement that would have set odds must have the probabilities correspond to what the odds would be. In other words, it could be RNG based, but the programmed probabilities would have to be the same as actual physical dice..at least in Nevada.
You'd do well to examine other states individually.

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FleaStiff

Can you back up what you are writing with facts?

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